Да нет, братцы. Я ещё сдерживался. Потому что имел в виду среднего россиянина, с русскими корнями.
А вот, пожалуйста, что в голове у людей учёных. Математиков. Правильных нерусских кровей.
Наслаждайтесь: Краткая история русского народа в изложении "кавказкого математика" Ходжаева.
Начинается она словами: "Если сверхкоротко, то история русских - срам. Русские историки пишут срамно о своем сраме".
Дальше, если угодно, смотрите сами. Это ОНО САМОЕ.
И не надо думать, что такое харчо варится только в черепульках кавказских человеков. У них просто перца больше, а бульонные кубики для этого супчика выпускают в промышленных масштабах. Фабрика.
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РУДН - это Лумумбарий, я правильно понимаю?
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Наби Мамедгусейнович Ходжаев. Специалист в аналитической теории чисел и некоторых пересекающихся с ней разделах математики и физики (простые части алгебраической теории чисел, алгебраической геометрии, физики высоких энергий и прочее).
Может быть, Российскому (!) Университету (!!) Дружбы Народов (!!!) стоит подумать над тем, чтобы избавить Наби Магомедгусейновича Ходжаева от столь тяжких формальностей, как работа?
Re: РУДН - это Лумумбарий, я правильно понимаю?
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другое дело, что думают над всем этим обычно глупые и неудавшиеся люди (умные и удавшиеся делают бизнес, либо просто ловят кайф от удобств цивилизации и белых людей с белым мышлением вокруг).
беда в том, что глупых больше. гораздо больше.
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срамные рабы и стукачи
Anonymous
July 20 2008, 21:42:59 UTC 11 years ago
Re: срамные рабы и стукачи
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Re: срамные рабы и стукачи
Anonymous
July 21 2008, 06:23:38 UTC 11 years ago
дали вам с либерастами статью 282, вы и играетесь.
казалось бы, они либерасты, должны быть за свободу слова.
а вы националисты, должны быть против интернацистского режима.
а хуй там. деятельность обоих лагерей сводится к тараканьим бегам - "кто первый мента обслужит". черные vs пруссаки, гыгы.
мне кстати абсолютно все равно, кто именно меня по ней упечет если что. главное что свободы слова как не было, так нет и не будет, будь там феодальные менты у власти, либерасты или вот националисты.
вы хотя бы постарайтесь окинуть свежим взглядом поциэнтуру, которая отирается вокруг этой бодяги. бикджафферы все эти или та стервопизда с красными цветами, от них же тленом за версту несет, а вы с ними якшаетесь, тому що типа "полезное дело делают". а они при случае и вас в гестапо сдадут точно так же, в тех же формулировках и с той же моральной позиции, не сомневайтесь.
а Наташе лечиться надо, дай ей Б-г здоровья, потому что сейчас ее правозащитная деятельность похожа на правозащитную деятельность Рубена Искандаряна.
вы, конечно, будете говорить, что на алягере уси сридства кошерны, что то что я говорю это всего лишь разводка чтоб вы ничего не делали в то время как Они-то делать будут и т. п.
но вы подумайте...
Re: срамные рабы и стукачи
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Re: срамные рабы и стукачи
January 4 2011, 07:45:04 UTC 8 years ago
Так стучим или не стучим? По понятиям - западло. И ваш ответ концептуально важен.
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(шёпотом рассказывает анекдот) Вчера таджикские хакеры впервые вышли в Сеть!.. Пятерых убило на месте. А шо вы хотите: 220 Вольт - это вам не шутки!"
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Известная часть общества страдала такой лживостью особенно. Так извратились в своей профессии быть "друзьями народа, молодежи и всего светлого", что самим казалось, что они вполне искренни. Я чуть не с отрочества жил с ними, был как будто вполне с ними,- и постоянно, поминутно возмущался, чувствуя их лживость, и на меня часто кричали:
- Это он-то лжив, этот кристальный человек, всю свою жизнь отдавший народу?!
(cit)
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У меня под окнами сейчас пятеро таких математиков тротуарную плитку кладут.
Нормально так кладут, ровненько и довольно быстро.
А что в этот момент в ихних куриных мозгах делается - да наплевать.
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вот если бы не было этих ожидаемых воплей по поводу голосования в стиле "Россия, ты одурела!" - у меня, Константин, ощущение, что вы бы сами под псевдонимом Карякина-Геворкян-... это написали.
Потому что приятно. Потому что душу греет, и можно обоснованно проехаться по "всем либерастам", которые всегда, всегда, всегда....
И можно забыть об Александре Адашеве, и о многом ещё можно забыть. Всегда-всегда-всегда.
Я лично за вас рад - вы прищучили "по полной". Только вот в вашем знании истории я усомнился сильно. И даже не от дурацкого изложения "с т.з. среднего обывателя". Просто на вашем уровне история России - важна, не знать содержания Важской уставной грамоты, например - нельзя. Поэтому отфрендюсь, если ещё раз такое глумление будет.
Хотя читаю полтора года с интересом
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Зато не платят королю налоги
Работники ножа и топора,
Романтики с большой дороги.
Всякое организованное сообщество всегда критиковали как рабов своего лидера. Гражданин Рима не считался рабом императора потому, что у него у самого были рабы. Другого пути нет и никогда не было.
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Можно вспомнить опыт нацистов по прессованию неудачников из научного сообщества. Эйнштейн, как самый хитрый, вовремя удрал. Математик Хаусдорф откосил от лагеря, отравившись вместе со всей семьёй. Причём кто то из семьи недобрал дозу отравы и травился в два захода. Математику Банаху пришлось кормить вшей своей кровью в рамках бесчеловечных экспериментов.
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Re: [утомленно]
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...бывает.
Re: [утомленно]
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Смотря какой -- иатчасти ведь очень много. Но в затронутой здесь матчасти ориентируюсь.
"и из МГУ тоже?"
Да.
"и вам краткое крыловское изложение нравится?"
В каком смысле "нравится"?
И правильно я понимаю, что вы здесь ведете речь об описании КК распространенного видения нашей истории?
Изложена едкая, задевающая гипербола. Причем изложена "правильно" задевающая гипербола. Так что в этом смысле мне "крыловское" сочинение нравится.
А вот сама ситуация, описанная в утированном виде, мне нравится не слишком.
Бывает.
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Дальше не смог осилить.
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А я верю, что такой перец существует
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Жиды есть во всех нациях и требование еврейства давно уже не обязательно.
Re: А я верю, что такой перец существует
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Нет, это просто типичный национальный интеллигиент
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Re: Нет, это просто типичный национальный интеллигиент
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Вот у товарища реальная проблема: собирается со статусом математика на Запад, а в CV нечего написать.
“В конечно счете не понятно, что писать в CV. 4 дубля + плагиат.”
http://nkhodzhaev.blogspot.com/search/label/tmp
“На каждый из вопросов:
почему к 44 годам, да еще и ввиду последней работы о фундаментальных вопросах математики и физики, так мало публикаций и они не высокого уровня, не считая плагиат в одной-двух из них?
почему в одной-двух из работ серия плагиатов?
почему много по существу дублей статей?
почему нет сообщений ни в одной конференции?
почему к 44 годам нет ни одного гранта или награды?
почему к 44 годам не профессор в России или в другой стране?
почему в CV нет референтов, т. е. кто мог бы поручиться?
ответом была бы только серия грязных историй о русских в их стиле.”
И как он ее решает? А просто:
“Ко времени, когда стану рассылать CV, россияне скажут много ругани обо мне и моей семье и для психически здоровых западных профессоров ответы на вопросы станут очевидными.”
Вуаля! Статей нет, а в напечатанных (вах, и как вышло?) плагиат – так посмотрите, как они меня травили на национальной почве. Кушать не мог, не то что статьи оригинальные писать. Мамой клянусь.
Правда, джигит, имеет уж какие-то совершенно дикие представления о своих западных коллегах. “На Западе публикация не настолько важное явление, о многом не говорит.” Вероятно, надеется, что его математическая состоятельность будет акцептована западными коллегами за хорошим столом и зажигательной лезгинкой.
Кстати, с оригинальными идеями у кавказского любителя философии вообще большие проблемы:
http://nkhodzhaev.blogspot.com/search/label/tmp
Планы перед написанием философской брошюры:
“Надо будет проверить, на самом деле все возможно навеяно афоризмами других философов, в основном Ф. Ницше. Тогда будет одна брошюра.
1) Качества мужчины. Почему мужчина долго не проживет.
2) Необходимое условие для человека культуры, в частности ученого (выше уровня доктора наук по градации России).
3) О понятии случая.
4) ... <постепенно вспомню>”
Вообще, похоже, мы имеем дело с феноменом снесения кавказской крыши в результате встречи с западной культурой. Из всей культуры в голову новоиспеченного интеллигента частично влез Ницше, но на фоне общей невежественности уже этого хватило, чтобы из просто темного джигита вылупился джигит “с идеями”. Идея, правда, все та же, что и у джигитов, Ницше не читавших, “НЕНАВИЖУ РОССИЮ”. Но уже на фоне понимания и поддержки благости западных ценностей :
«Запомнилось еще, что тот же политэммигрант к концу ненужной "дискуссии" с психопатом, объяснял ему, что если бы не вакцина американца Пастера против полиемеилита, которой сейчас пользуются во всех странах благодаря этому американцу, то у оппонента могли бы быть маленькие кривые ноги.
Насколько я знаю подкорку, политэммигрант подсознательно … думал о других американцах, которые нашли прививку демократии против тоталитаризма и большинство стран, в отличие от России, приняли эту вакцину американцев.”
О, как! Культура произнесения тостов нашла себе применение. Даром, что Пастер француз и французский ученый, но американская вакцина видать и впрямь сильна, раз так вставила кавказского математика.
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Also sprach Наби Мамедгусейнович:
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Дальше не осилил, но уверен, что там не менее феерично. Чувствуется, что писал настоящий рафинированный дагестанский интелегент.
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Дядя дурак.
July 21 2008, 12:49:47 UTC 11 years ago
Чем этот дядя хуже (или лучше) знакомого вам Топтагина? Тем, что сбрендил на антирусском и антиславянском пункте (а не на прославянском, как Топтагин и иже с ним)? Чем он хуже (лучше) Яроврата?
Глупость и безумие - и есть глупость и безумие. Делать на их основании общие выводы, противопоставлять "чужому" безумию "своё" безумие - всё равно что умножать на ноль. Ноль в итоге и останется.
Мне всегда казалось, что исходить надо не от ноля, а от положительного числа. Ну, допустим - если речь идёт об отношении кавказской интеллигенции к России... от Фазиля Искандера или Тимура Кибирова. Они ведь - тоже не ангелы. Но они хотя бы разумны.
Re: Дядя дурак.
Anonymous
July 21 2008, 14:04:39 UTC 11 years ago
Т.е. вопрос - откуда возьмется кавказская интеллигенция и какой она будет?
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Re: Дядя дурак.
July 21 2008, 21:38:52 UTC 11 years ago
Это очень хороший пример того, что будет, если кавказца выучить наукам и искусствам. Будет ВОТ ЭТО. И только это.
Искандер - этого я помню. Когда надо, ВСЁ ЧТО НАДО ГОВОРИЛ.
Re: Дядя дурак.
July 22 2008, 05:14:37 UTC 11 years ago
Он обозлённый, совсем не умный и даже не хитрый.
"Это очень хороший пример, что будет, если кавказца выучить наукам и искусствам. Будет ВОТ ЭТО. И только это".
Это не так. Я работаю в Адыгейском госуниверситете и могу привести вам примеры многих своих замечательных высокопрофессиональных коллег, любящих русскую культуру и уважающих русских.
Любовь Гаруновна Мамий, преподаватель древнерусской литературы. Или Нелли Магомедовна Шишхова, преподаватель русской литературы девятнадцатого века.
"Когда надо, ВСЁ ЧТО НАДО ГОВОРИЛ".
Вот и давайте будеи исходить как от минимума от этого "всё что надо", неприятного, но произносимого, по кроайней мере, вменяемым человеком.
Re: Дядя дурак.
July 22 2008, 07:22:08 UTC 11 years ago
Если кавказца не учить наукам, он будет резать и убивать. Если обучить - он ещё и придумает политкорректное обоснование своего права резать и убивать. Второе, имхо, ещё хуже.
Обратная логика.
July 22 2008, 12:47:03 UTC 11 years ago
Поэтому кавказца должны выучить МЫ - НАШИМ наукам. Тогда он не будет резать и убивать.
Кстати, представители "старой адыгско-советской интеллигенции" "активистов Великой Черкесии" НЕ ПОДДЕРЖИВАЮТ. Я это хорошо вижу.
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Русские позволили убить своего законного правителя вместе с семьёй, ведомые жадностью и безответственностью поддались посулам негодяев и выгнали и перебили весь свой русский управляющий класс. Затем уже лешённые лидерства и структуры позволии сесть себе на шею кланам инородцев. Для тотального контроля инородческие кланы перепрограммировали славян-христиан в советских людей. Т.к. перепрограммированием занимались еврейские кланы контролировавшие «искусство», то советские люди – это просто недо-евреи, т.е. евреи без религии, семейной культуры и национальных обычаев.
А такие плевки терпеть само-собой трудно. Но всем народам вокруг видно кто мы, и чего стоим, в том числе и дикарям. Ведь даже у дикарей есть национальная самоиндификация которой нет у советских.
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(с искренним сочувствием и интересом)
July 21 2008, 14:39:48 UTC 11 years ago
А дальше-то что планируете делать?
Re: (с искренним сочувствием и интересом)
July 21 2008, 15:30:49 UTC 11 years ago
Re: (с искренним сочувствием и интересом)
July 21 2008, 16:20:30 UTC 11 years ago
Но зачем-то вам надо в процессе "частной жизни" легитимизировать право плевка русскому в лицо. Зачем вам это?
Re: (с искренним сочувствием и интересом)
July 21 2008, 17:05:30 UTC 11 years ago
Он вроде там лезгин. Так я вот Вам, уважаемая Инга, расскажу что у лезгин на Кавказе до прихода туда Русской Армии была одна из лучших воинских репутаций. Они успешно занимались налётами на соседей, особенно грузин. Между русским отрядом и лезгинским ополчением произошло жестокое сражение в котором лезгинские воины потерпели тяжёлое поражение. До этого они не терпели поражений. Вот эти гордые воины и подчинились Русскому Царю и вошли в Россию, для них стать союзником мощного и храброго противника было почётно.
А сейчас, почему они должны подчиняться деморализованному стаду упровляемому неизвесто кем?
(с искренним сочувствием и интересом - 2)
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Re: (с искренним сочувствием и интересом - 2)
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Re: (с искренним сочувствием и интересом)
July 22 2008, 13:32:26 UTC 11 years ago
По поводу покаяния в деморализованности – не понимаю, почему каяться надо перед лезгинами. Отмеченного вами качества “Они успешно занимались налётами на соседей” в 21 веке недостаточно для какого-либо авторитета.
Re: (с искренним сочувствием и интересом)
July 22 2008, 14:04:43 UTC 11 years ago
И мои сообщения были не о "покаянии" а об осознании реального положения в котором оказались остатки русского народа и о том как это случилось. А случилось это всё из-за самонадеянности русских наверху и медвежьего невежества наших предков внизу.
Re: (с искренним сочувствием и интересом)
July 22 2008, 15:02:14 UTC 11 years ago
Но еще понятно, что ваше понимание лишило вас сил и воли. А вы - один из нас. Значит мы ослабели еще на одного.
Re: (с искренним сочувствием и интересом)
July 22 2008, 15:51:06 UTC 11 years ago
Русских держат под контролем не через страх а через их ум.
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Оказывается, даже правильные, в общем-то, взгляды могут служить источником дикой русофобии и фрустрации. Это как в голове ГЛАВНЫЙ ШУРУПЧИК повёрнут.
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http://oper.ru/news/read.php?t=1051603246
это всё простые русские парни. Они сдадут любого лидера. Ключь к построению нового русского госкдарства - это создание нового служилого класса.
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Или я в силу недавности на жж не знаю сакраментального значения этого вот )( ?
July 21 2008, 21:43:42 UTC 11 years ago
July 22 2008, 07:32:11 UTC 11 years ago
Но в данном случае возникает четкое такое ощущение, что хвост виляет собачкой. А именно - что характерный пример создан в качестве характерного примера, пациент - для приложения скальпеля врача.
У РУДН есть сайт. На сайте есть возможность посмотреть фамилии сотрудников. Автор обсуждаемого блога, думается, заглянул на этот сайт, в перерыве между своими фонтанированиями.
Потому в данном контексте, кажется, было бы более правильно поставить вопрос: кто занимается вбросом подобного контента и что это ему дает. Кроме морального удовлетворения, разумеется.
Будет очень невесело, если вы тоже как-нибудь "забудете перелогиниться" (с)
July 22 2008, 10:51:53 UTC 11 years ago
Автор, я думаю, вполне реален. Если нет, это очень скоро выяснится.
У меня есть несколько виртуалов, заведённых в литературных целях, но их "и так все знают".
July 22 2008, 14:49:35 UTC 11 years ago
Ладно, подожду, может, проскочит что-нибудь у вас в будущем по поводу реальности этого автора. Любопытно, ей-богу.
Просто если бы я сформулировал свои вопросы более конкретно, вы бы мне совершенно резонно ответили "какое твое дело". :)
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Т.е. промывание мозгов - работа долгая и кропотливая, но всё зависит от таланта того, кто это будет делать...
Анализ мозгов советских у Вас точный, но правильный взгляд на русскую историю от этого не появится, а пытаться так солидаризовать тех, у кого во взглядах "на русскость" общим является только разговорный язык - это, на мой взгляд, бесперспективное дело.
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от той ситуации, какая была навязана стране. Сколько книг и учебников по истории, которые противоречат событиям. Историю, как и Библию писали и переписывали люди, а не боги. Люди со своими амбициями, стремлениями, убеждениями. Можем только догадываться и вникать в символику древних языков.
Мы знаем историю такой как нам ее преподносят, а преподносят ее и пишут, составляют люди.
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Отчасти и не оффтоп
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Вот так я пострадал за русскую историю
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